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Setup base stations and VIVE trackers without HMD

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Hi! I just reached out the VIVE support service about the topic in the tittle, to be able to setup the base stations and the vive trackers without having to use the HMD. From what they told me its not possible to do that but they said that maybe there is a way. My purpose with this is to track the movement of a real object with the vive trackers and then save the data to simulate the movement in a virtual object. Apparently SteamVR won't be able to connect to those devices without the HMD but I found a way (link) to make the app think the HMD is connected and still can't make the rest of the devices to work, since it won't allow me to activate or deactivate bluetooth, I'm guessing because the HMD has to be the one and only to connect to the devices. 

Also, which headsets are compatible with VIVE base stations and VIVE trackers? I don't have access to the VIVE headset but maybe I do with the Valve Index, can I use those to setup the devices? And do I need the headset for everytime I will use the trackers and stations?

Thanks in advance!

 

@Synthesis @VibrantNebula

 

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@Cooconuts - Here's a quick high level overview:

  • Using trackers without an HMD is officially considered unsupported from an HTC standpoint - any development in that realm is not really supported by us expect in exceptional cases.
    • The closest thing to a best practice for this operation involves invoking a null HMD driver to pull data from trackers without an HMD.
    • The data is transmitted back to the PC via the bluetooth dongles (or potentially via USB data cable)
    • SteamVR is still required at runtime to interface with the trackers.
  • Technically any HMD that uses SteamVR lighthouse based tracking will also natively work alongside trackers (Index, Pimax, ect...). You basically just have to watch out for with version trackers you have (gen 1 or the updated Tracker 2018) and which version of the basestations you have (1.0 or 2.0) as there are hardline generational compatibility requirements.

In your specific case, the bluetooth of the tracker wouldn't connect to any HMD, it would transmit data back to the Vive tracker dongle that came with the tracker.

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On 2/19/2020 at 2:47 AM, VibrantNebula said:

@Cooconuts - Here's a quick high level overview:

  • Using trackers without an HMD is officially considered unsupported from an HTC standpoint - any development in that realm is not really supported by us expect in exceptional cases.
    • The closest thing to a best practice for this operation involves invoking a null HMD driver to pull data from trackers without an HMD.
    • The data is transmitted back to the PC via the bluetooth dongles (or potentially via USB data cable)
    • SteamVR is still required at runtime to interface with the trackers.
  • Technically any HMD that uses SteamVR lighthouse based tracking will also natively work alongside trackers (Index, Pimax, ect...). You basically just have to watch out for with version trackers you have (gen 1 or the updated Tracker 2018) and which version of the basestations you have (1.0 or 2.0) as there are hardline generational compatibility requirements.

In your specific case, the bluetooth of the tracker wouldn't connect to any HMD, it would transmit data back to the Vive tracker dongle that came with the tracker.

Hi there i am new at setting up the 2 x base station 2.0 and a Vive Tracker ( 2018 ) and after following all the steps " null HMD driver " .... i have a few issues

1 ) STEAM VR cant detect any of my base station 2.0 and Vive Tracker 

2 ) I cant have access the base station via bluetooth ( No bluetooth driver installed it stated ) 

Correct me if i am wrong ... Do i need the 

HTC Vive Link Box for Vive Pro Series VR Headsets
HTC Vive Link Box for Vive Pro Series to activate the bluetooth so that my computer and the substation can communicate ?  Thanks 
 
Cheers : ) 
Kenny 

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