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I think we won't see any update soon probably because of the situation in China. That's fine, I just hope everyone is okay.

 

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6 hours ago, lamyipming said:

I think we won't see any update soon probably because of the situation in China. That's fine, I just hope everyone is okay.

 

May not be quite as bad for HTC Vive since they are located and manufacture in Taiwan, not mainland China.  Still could be a factor if they get any components from mainland China though.

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On 2/10/2020 at 2:05 PM, Retsu said:

All I ask right now is for people who extremely frustrated and angry is to take some time off from Cosmos. Please stop spreading misinformation like it's a broken hardware and such. The reason why the updates are slow right now is because Chinese New Year just passed and dev team was taking break with their loved ones. Now the Dev team is back and updates will continue. Also, I would like to remind everyone is that reason why Oculus Rift S got fixed in just few months - because Facebook has insane resources. Thousands and thousands of people were sending their feedback to them and thanks to this Oculus was fixed fast. Meanwhile we got statement "I don't have to help" here. Well, don't get surprised then if takes longer to fix. 

 

Are you actually asking people that paid $1k for a gaming device to take time off it because they were sold an unfinished product?

"Hey here is a car, I know you paid $20k for it and it's supposed to drive, but it doesn't yet. You see the primary function that you paid for, doesn't quite work."

Sorry but no! I will spread the truth about this HMD all over the internet. And the truth is, this device is not finished and broken. Everyone should know about this, and they will. 

I'm even prepping a YouTube review about it and going to post it all over social media. 

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4 hours ago, TomCgcmfc said:

May not be quite as bad for HTC Vive since they are located and manufacture in Taiwan, not mainland China.  Still could be a factor if they get any components from mainland China though.

I am just thinking as HTC is about to attending WMC2020 in Spain which start at 24th Feb. As they passed CES US in Jan.They must have some importance news  or products are about to talk about. e.g maybe the faceplate of Cosmos launching date. In addition it will also be a great time great to release a far  greater improved beta version at same time.As we all know there are rising anger about it especially in here.

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19 hours ago, OuiMurphOui said:

I am just thinking as HTC is about to attending WMC2020 in Spain which start at 24th Feb. As they passed CES US in Jan.They must have some importance news  or products are about to talk about. e.g maybe the faceplate of Cosmos launching date. In addition it will also be a great time great to release a far  greater improved beta version at same time.As we all know there are rising anger about it especially in here.

Unfortunately WMC 2020 has now been canceled due to coronavirus.  Maybe Vive can just let us know what they intended to present at this.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51474116

 

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On 2/11/2020 at 8:05 AM, Retsu said:

All I ask right now is for people who extremely frustrated and angry is to take some time off from Cosmos. Please stop spreading misinformation like it's a broken hardware and such. The reason why the updates are slow right now is because Chinese New Year just passed and dev team was taking break with their loved ones. Now the Dev team is back and updates will continue. Also, I would like to remind everyone is that reason why Oculus Rift S got fixed in just few months - because Facebook has insane resources. Thousands and thousands of people were sending their feedback to them and thanks to this Oculus was fixed fast. Meanwhile we got statement "I don't have to help" here. Well, don't get surprised then if takes longer to fix. 

 

I think people are upset because they spent finished product retail price for a product which under performs and under delivers.

The dev's have not said that they can fix hardware related issues with firmware.

The cosmos is limited due to the way that the tracking was implemented which is whey they are in such a hurry to deploy the tracking face plate. 

Of course people who already own the Cosmos are going to feel ripped off and lied to when they will need to spend more that the original price to buy the components to upgrade and fix it. face plate, new controllers and new sensors. 

 

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1 hour ago, Cossack said:

I think people are upset because they spent finished product retail price for a product which under performs and under delivers.

The dev's have not said that they can fix hardware related issues with firmware.

The cosmos is limited due to the way that the tracking was implemented which is whey they are in such a hurry to deploy the tracking face plate. 

Of course people who already own the Cosmos are going to feel ripped off and lied to when they will need to spend more that the original price to buy the components to upgrade and fix it. face plate, new controllers and new sensors. 

 

Your assumption has been misleading I believe. 

1) When the time Cosmos launched in October last year, they havd already mention it’s a modualr type of HMD that hardware can be update. The lighhouse faceplate is mainly targeting those OG Vive or Vive pro owner imhp.

2) The inside out tracking or All in one VR device is the fututure of VR. Mobility is king and , just like mobile phone, it’s a trend that cannot be ignored. One of the reason of Oculus Quest booming is coz it’s easy to set up without setting up lighhouse tracking.  Any company is not aware of that might not be competitive in the game. 

Conclusion: I don’t think HTC is evilly try to lie  and ripped off people and force them to buy the faceplate. Instead they’ve just lack of people and resources, lack of VR pattern and heavily  rely on their supply chain to offer tech of VR. They will fix Cosmos tracking instability, they have to, for the sake of company future strategy.

 

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Dude, you don't sell something retail, high price, and expect your users to test it. That is ridiculous. When you sell an end product, it is supposed to be working. Period. When you buy a car you expect it to work, right? You don't expect steering to be all over the place, and wait for it to improve over the next months if you submit enough debug data.

I appreciate the HTC employees in this forum, and I thank them for the effort to communicate constructively, especially since it is not their own fault the product is like it is. I also appreciate the devs working to improve it. But when I see end users trying to excuse a business practice that's toxic and ridiculous, I can't just put up with it. /rant

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8 hours ago, skydna said:

Dude, you don't sell something retail, high price, and expect your users to test it. That is ridiculous. When you sell an end product, it is supposed to be working. Period. When you buy a car you expect it to work, right? You don't expect steering to be all over the place, and wait for it to improve over the next months if you submit enough debug data.

I appreciate the HTC employees in this forum, and I thank them for the effort to communicate constructively, especially since it is not their own fault the product is like it is. I also appreciate the devs working to improve it. But when I see end users trying to excuse a business practice that's toxic and ridiculous, I can't just put up with it. /rant

Htc starting to sound like EA 

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