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3 minutes ago, Badelhas said:
Thanks a lot for your suggestions. I tried them and I am happy to announce that everything seems to be working perfectly now (knock on wood) 🙂
Meanwhile I installed the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, replacing the Ryzen 5 3600 CPU. I currently own the Nvidia 3060ti GPU, I was thinking about upgrading to the 3800 (I can get it used for 500 and sell mine for 300). I know I wont be able to use full resolution in almost none of the games but, in your opinion, it´s a worthy upgrade? I wish I could get a current gen but these prices are simply outrageous.
Also, I am a bit lost regarding SteamVR and Vive Console setting. With the OG Vive I left it everything on AUTO. What setting do you use on both softwares?
I see that SteamVR selects 150% resolution if I put it in Manual but just left it on Auto and selected "Balanced" mode on Vive Console since I read its the more adequate for my current GPU. Should I change it to AUTO?
Thanks again for your help.
Cheers!
Do you mean the 3080? I guess the 3060ti to a 3080 for 200 is a decent deal, though perhaps only if you really want it, because if the 3060ti is good enough, you can probably hold onto it for 2-3 years before upgrading and getting a tonne of bang for your buck. Consider consulting with a pc subreddit though, I'm not very familiar with hardware specs
Not sure what this means, but some things:
-Vive console and steamvr settings work individually and are both impactful.
-ViveXR is in my experience more compatible with games but a bit lower performance and can't run many games, resulting in a crash
-SteamXR is desirable with better performance and can run every game but vive might get pissy at you and cause crashes
-On vive console I use VR mode, Press headset button for passthrough, No audio limit, and I try for steamXR when possible iirc
-On steam I have controllers/hmd turning off automatically disabled if possible in interest of reducing potential crashes, and then other settings iirc are personal, stuff like audio setting and backgroundsYeah the resolution gets really fucky especially when you have steamvr doing resolution, maybe vive also doing it's own resolution, and then a video game doing it's own resolution too. I just put resolution settings on auto
Glad you got your headset to crash less!
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7 hours ago, Badelhas said:
Hi. I'm having similar issues, very interested in knowing: how did you fixed your issues?
Cheers
I didn't fix mine, it still bugeers up super often still. but some shit to try:
disable usb power saving mode
test with steam or vive xr modes
disable controllers going to sleep after some time of inactivity
if wireless, add a cooling fan that must use a seperate battery, and consider changing the usb cable if you've had it a while and it's just started recently-ish
and if wireless ensure the pcie card is on an x4 iirc
dont turn the headset on and leave it without wearing it for a while, this often fucks up steamvr and requires a restart. instead start the headset then intend to use it within a couple of minutes
then other shit I woulda forgot but eh doesnt really matter the vive headset andor firmware and or software is all dogshit. I've needed to return mine 3 times I think or at least 2 because first the headstrap adjustment broke and second the device no matter what would not connect/communicate with my computer, and even vive couldnt fix itso just best of luck, and when it fucks up so much you can't bare it, consider asking for a refund for something that actually works like the index or quest 2 or hp reverb etc
Just now, cate said:I didn't fix mine, it still bugeers up super often still. but some shit to try:
disable usb power saving mode
test with steam or vive xr modes
disable controllers going to sleep after some time of inactivity
if wireless, add a cooling fan that must use a seperate battery, and consider changing the usb cable if you've had it a while and it's just started recently-ish
and if wireless ensure the pcie card is on an x4 iirc
dont turn the headset on and leave it without wearing it for a while, this often fucks up steamvr and requires a restart. instead start the headset then intend to use it within a couple of minutes
then other shit I woulda forgot but eh doesnt really matter the vive headset andor firmware and or software is all dogshit. I've needed to return mine 3 times I think or at least 2 because first the headstrap adjustment broke and second the device no matter what would not connect/communicate with my computer, and even vive couldnt fix itso just best of luck, and when it fucks up so much you can't bare it, consider asking for a refund for something that actually works like the index or quest 2 or hp reverb etc
ah and heres what someone from vive suggested I do which helped fix something iirc:
Reset the USB drivers:
1. Unplug all Link Box cables from your PC.
2. Navigate to SteamVR > Settings > Developer.
3. Click on Remove all SteamVR USB Devices. Verify the USB cable or any other cable is not plugged into the Link Box and click Yes.
4. Once this is complete, quit SteamVR.
5. Restart your PC.
6. Plug them in the following order: AC Adapter > DP > USB. This will reinstall all Vive USB drivers.After you've done the above, power cycle the link box with the next troubleshooting:
1. Quit SteamVR
2. Unplug the power and USB cords from the PC side of the Link Box.
3. Wait a few seconds, and then plug the power and USB cords back into the Link Box. You may see more drivers install. Wait for this process to finish.
4. Launch SteamVR.-
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I got 2 of vives batteries for my wireless cosmos elite since just one battery with a mere 2 hours is bugger all. And welp the second battery is about useless especially so if you're playing multiplayer, because almost all of the time, when you change the batteries, the game will freeze, and steamvr wont pickup the headset until you restart vr and thus the game.
You're already pissed at this point that the shit battery is already dead (without any warning!!!), and despite you whopping out a hundred dollars to fix the issue, youll need to restart vr all over again. Which takes time and is a massive pain especially when software issues are bloody rampant. So instead of restarting vr to use the second battery, you'll go "Fuck this shit 😠 Never getting a stupid VIVE product again." then come to the forums to bitch about vive and its dogshit design and fucking infinite array of issues.
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Yep. horrible company for consumers with horrible products.
Their cosmos elite is seriously horribly designed in every way possible - just got to think intricately about it (nose piece, comfort material, lesnes, weight distrobution, hinge looseness, lightbleed, bad specs, heat issues, useless cameras, list goes on and on).
The pro 2 is disguisting; bad specs, overpriced, evil to make and sell this junk rather than make something actually good, or do what they bloody promised and make modules for the cosmos, so its modularity is no longer a massive lie (which it still is by the way, don't forget that).
The wireless is awesome but functions entirely thanks to intel - I can say that for certain because htc made it have horrible thermals - getting to 90c and resulting in major display errors; its a bulky design, easily interrupted by wires, has a short battery life, can't use the massive device to power other stuff like a fan, which by the way is an essential mod
The software is horrible; the updates give zero info if they were some false positive or they actually worked; the ipd never bloody works, htc requires multiple softwares just to get vr running, and its really just poorly done.
NEVER get anything from HTC again. They are completely incompetent at delivering to consumers; they only thing they have at least a chance of being capable of, is business vr. VIVE's largest accomplishments were all thanks to other companies: The og vive was all thanks to valve - which is specially evident based on the fact that even vive's new fancy premium headsets (cosmos) don't have the ESSENTIAL eye relief function/feature! And wireless is again all thanks to Intel. The vive pro, pro 2, cosmos, and their accessories are garbage. The accesories are 'innovative', but I 100% expect them to be complete pieces of underdesigned overpriced overcomplicated tedius bastard devices.
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oh mate that's a tough ask for vive, asking that they make something functional.. yeah look you're better off getting impossibly lucky and finding a gold bar on your doorstep, which you can then use to buy some atleast functional device like the Index.
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Wireless cosmos elite w/ suggested batteries etc. with a beefy compatible pc
Launched wireless software, and then vive console. seems my computer was still functional, but not accepting input. Hover app animations and cursor icons etc worked, but clicking did nothing, and oddly while windows key opened the windows menu thing, windows+l didnt do the lock screen.
I then tried closing vive console, assuming the problem was with it, but I was unable to do that. I then noticed that Steam was frozen, so I mass spammed clicked it, in order to activate the "steam.exe is not responding. kill app?" dialog, which resolves many crashes. Doing this though, gave my computer a bsod. Upon restarts, bsod showed, but apart from that the computer was completely frozen. My computer only continued working after I completely reset it (power off then power on, rather than reset button).
I assume the issue is with VIVE console because it's proven a real pain to me, and I have low faith in VIVE yet high faith in my computer, it's health, and Steam. Also because my computer seemed to have froze after VIVE console launching.
Thankfully no data was lost, since mozilla firefox is epic and saved my tabs+windows. But still. my absurdly overpriced underdesigned device that occasionally works literally breaking my computer, is not ok. by any means.
All in all, I doubt this issue will be resolved in a reasonable timeframe for such a major issue, like 2 months, and my faith in VIVE/htc has lowered somehow even further -
On 6/8/2021 at 5:29 AM, miguelgdx said:
I also have the static noise in the speakers and it's so annoying when everything is quiet.
If you look at brighter scenes, the noise becomes more noticeable and you can't really ignore it.It doesn't even matter if you disable the audio device or even unplug the USB cable, you can still hear it coming from the earphones.
Also, if you switch from 90Hz to 120Hz, the noise sounds a bit different (but never fixes it).Honestly, if this can't be fixed I'd rather go back to the OG Vive with the Deluxe Audio and return this.
Yep! The og vive (99% good, all thanks to valve), is imo far superior to any other headset htc made. The cosmos is complete garbage - wireless often crashes, uncomfortable, no ipd, too expensive, dumb halo design, painful unergonomic design, stupid package has old bulky dated wands, cameras are barely even functional, no modular parts for it as of yet, lesnes SUCK! endless god rays and blur, nose thing doesn't even work. lets in lots of light; sweaty stinky foam, mediocore audio (sharp distortion of sorts at high volume), wireless has disastorous heating effects (literally gets to 90 celcius+ if you dont install a aftermarket fan on it!), software has 50/50 chance of working, has too much software, bad specs - should focus on fov and hertz (and comfort ofc) before resolution; ipd software IS AWFUL! have to try to activate it for 12 bloody seconds, and it will randomly change itself when in-game. Adjusting is bad; you can't tighten the headset super tight, which is annoying for action games like bsaber and gorilla tag; adjusting knob has zero bloody grip, advertised as lightweight but is as bulky as ever, flip up adds weight, reduces fov, increases price, doesn't stay up, is painful when is up, and overall a stupid idea. you can easily put the hmd on your forhead, rather than downgrading the hmd so that it can barely bloody hinge upward; on this, the hmd does shift around during gameplay thanks to the hinge; wireless battery solution isn't designed to attach to the head (which is stupid, as it helps to have a counterweight, and it's more convenient as you don't have to wear clothing for the battery's belt design (you can easily zip tie the battery holder to the hmd head, making the device actually wireless))
so hopefully that lets you know why I hate the cosmos, htc, and would happily take an og vive over my current cosmos because it's superior in like everything apart from resolution (and scrn door effect doesn't matter, beacuse the cosmos is UNGODLY blurry. without the gearvr mod, you literally can't see anything not within 0.5% of your pupil.); the og vive also has much better design (like it ATLEAST has an eye relief function(!!!!!!!!!)), and is made BY VALVE. AKA A COMPETENT/GREAT COMPANY FOR VR.
I recommend never buy a htc product; they're garbage. Look at the alternatives for trackers; don't get scammed for the cosmos or pro series; their wireless is functional but crashes so many bloody times, you're better off with a cheap wire hinge solution. ONLY reason to get vive is for their new accessories, like the facial tracker. Though I can easily imagine even that's a complete piece of junk.
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9 hours ago, cees said:
Hello i have yhe 8kx too and had it with the vive pro 2,could you pm me please how you did it...
Better idea to contact pimax support directly, because of the reasons raging beard mentioned.
Though congrats for making the endlessly superior choice of ditching htc/vive, in favour of a decent, competent vr company for consumers! -
8 hours ago, John2910 said:
Still no news for this issue??
what, you think htc will actually make their product functional for their many high-paying customers? HAH! they're nothing more than some scam, sucking up to businesses. I say this with full confidence, as I own the unbelievably awful cosmos elite. Very possibly the worst purchase of my entire life.
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I hope with this VIVE doesn't bsod my system..
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hah! vive software literally causes bsod. unbelievable. really. you were the largest, best, consumer vr producer. now you're nothing more than some joke to common consumers; merely appealing to corporate rubbish.
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never trust vive again. they made the cosmos series, some horrendous software (in-vr ipd display as proof, many other software issues), and now the pro 2. I recommend looking at valve, pimax, or oculus only. Also consider tundralabs for trackers and what-not.
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So one main thing the vive worker suggested, was moving the wireless pcie card from anything but a 1x, to 1x. Doing this as well as removing an unnecessary wireless wifi pcie card, re-tightening the cable for the wireless transmitter and giving it a wipe, wireless (so far...), is working great!
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1 minute ago, C.T. said:
The new wireless kits should contain the bigger Watts battery pack.
Make sure you are using the following one with the Cosmos series or newer model.Yep, I use these - own 2 infact, and regardless of their charge, and either one I use, I still experience the constant rebooting. I have tried a total of 3 USB cables that conenct the battery to the adapter, and all give the same issue.
However from a VIVE console report I've sent, a team member emailed back to me with a list of diagnostic steps. I'll see if any of them work, and if so report here.
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It works flawlessly wired.
Also woah!!!! Wired looks SOOOOOOOOOO much better than wireless!!!! The increased resolution, colour, detail, less blur, and also zero latency! WOAH! I considered going cable, and using hooks, but then after playing gorilla tag, I noticed not being able to turn in real life is a massive pain. Also, the cable is super uncomfortable.VIVE, if you continue pcvr headsets, also prioritise upgrading wireless hardware massively! Also make sure that the batteries are compatible, and don't make it absurdly priced.
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The technology that lets you send wirelessly low latency extremely high information (high resolution, high refresh rate, high accuracy) is Intel's WiGig: A form of internet that is exceptionally fast, though is short-range, and can't penetrate.
WiGig for VR seems to have been made 2 years ago, which in terms of computers, is aging -- the 2080ti was 2 years ago. Now there's the supremely beefier 3090.
WiGig is however a new technology, meaning that the Wireless solution VIVE uses, is considered old, and there is likely a much better way of transmitting data, or an upgrade to WiGig that hasn't been invented or imlpemented yet.So WiGig is a new technology, and VIVE uses an aged version of it - where there is likely something better available.
Oh yeah makes sense that this should be a unique problem in your case. Possibly either your wireless receiver (on your head) is too hot; it is known for thermal issues. A solution is to plug a USB fan into the wireless recievers usb slot, and have it on a push configuration, half way on the edge of the device, half off - for optimal cooling
That or, only other thing I can think of, is either your wireless sender thing (thing on desktop, pointing at you) is not set up well; it should be at a decent height and looking at center of playspace. Also IDK, but I think it helps if you're in a close playspace, so the wiGig waves don't escape.
That or your computer is not good enough for the wireless, so it is bottlenecking somewhere. Can you post your specs? -
On 6/12/2021 at 4:57 AM, TheLooseArrow said:
I am also getting wildly fluctuating frame times in certain games, which does not happen with a wired connection
Probably because the wireless tech is hardware limited, as it's a fairly new and now rather old technology. No solution.
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cant be bothered to search through the logs sorry, but here's the file from when I started a game, where the headset restarted like 6 times in the span on 24 seconds.
this would include personal info, but idk how in the hell to report the file to the vive people securely, and really am like super demotivated for anything because of this ruthless uncurable issue vive has seemingly created -
shouldnt be gpu because with my wireless cosmos elite and a rtx 3070, I get the exact issue as you
shouldnt be hardware issue because when I first got the headset, it was working perfect for a while.
as I think it should be a software issue, when I'm bothered to do so, I'll go to device manager when my headset is powered on and connected, and do the thing where you make sure each usb device does not have usb power management enabled. If that can't fix it, I could only assume the vives updates broke the device, seeing as people are getting this issue from a month ago, and now it's a constant thing. -
Yes that's just about the same issue I face - some days the issue doesn't exist, is not too bad, only comes on 1.5hours into play, or is often, making vr unusable.
Though it seems you get low fps and a stuttery screen on these crashes, but you mention restarting - which is what happens to me: stuttery for a second or something, then a complete headset restart. I know this because my small fan attached to the headset, turns off during these resets - meaning the headset is not getting/using any power.
Also don't worry about your language! Mate, imo, as long as you can communicate - as in talk to people using English, and your speaking ability is functional; I couldn't care if your English was as broken as a 4 year olds. People who rudely critisese non-perfect language is pretentious and elitist to me --- and your English seems flawless to me 🙂
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Sure. when should I create the report? before, during, or after the whole restarting phase?
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Nevermind. Getting the same literally unbelievably infuraiting issue again, where the headset constantly turns on and off, and steamvr has a seisure saying each time I need to update my headset (which btw is a glitch; when it does update, it's always an instant "wireless receiver" one)
The fact I'm getting these beyond unusable/playable often, and as are many other people, whom get them with zero help/answer, is put simply, is a massive issue (note how I'm not using too strong words, to avoid getting censored)
Screw implemeting pass through - just please, get your bloody product working!! 1800 or so AUD for the cosmos elite kit+wireless and other stuff for getting now what's nothing more than a sort of sadistic trophy, reminding me I spent money on HTC; which doesn't even function as a paper-weight because its design is so bloody bulky and really, just dumb - and also because it's a literal sweat sponge, among many other issues that make it not even usable as a paperweight--.... makes me so mad. 1800 hard earnt buckaroos for some literal rubbish.
Fix it. Please.
Also if you ask me to include a error log thing, please describe in detaile in which stage of the process:when the headset works -> when issues begin -> when headset is off -> when it is booting back up -> when it has restarted and is functioning, for now (as in like the literal moment -- for some reason the headset is just doing the whole restart thing super frequently now >:cc )
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I've replaced my usb-usba cable for my wireless receiver first with a: usba-usbc-usbc-usbc female-usba, and that seems to have fixed it so far
And I recently purchased a usb-a to usb-a, however it only does 5GB/s https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B00P0E3954/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Any which way, both cable solutions seems to have fixed my device constantly resetting so far 🙂Frajs, I'd guess you also have cable damaged. Get a response from HTC and perhaps request an entire new set of cables under warranty, and argue with shipping costs, until hopefully they'd ship it to you for free. (Because consumers shouldn't have to pay to utilise a warranty 😕 )
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Please explain what you mean by the trouble was the cable?
I'm having the same issue, where my wireless cosmos elite just restarts often for 40second sessions. Immensely infuriating and I can't really play vr till it's fixed
Extra battery is useless - changing batterys mid game about never works.
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Mhm. coming back to warn anyone looking for a wireless adapter, at least for anything fancier than the OG Vive "1": dont. the wireless adapter is fucking ass. it is fantastic to be free of vives sticky heavy long tangly twisty shitty fucking cable, but the wireless adapter means you have these issues:
-more software issues/crashes and bullshit. massive fucking red flag here. software bugs in vr is not acceptable, full stop.
-2 hour battery life with zero warning that it will turn off.
-the wireless receiver on your head gets to fucking 90c iirc which will burn you head. to fix this you need to mod on a little fan. to power the fan you cant just plug it into the wireless battery or the headset, because the headset is fucky and bitchy. so instead you need to also mod on a little battery just for the fan. this adds weight and worsens the center of mass and is another fucking thing to charge
-its fucking expensive
-it has AWFUL compression and bitrate bullshit
-it has hard to notice but still significant latency that is obvious in fast games like beat saber and blade and sorcery
-it has AWFULLY low brightness and contrast
-it will gray screen more often because the wireless signal might get interrupted or maybe some bullshit issue in your computer fucks up the transmitter card or some shit.
the cable is fucking awful but the wireless is somehow fucking worse. you will get used to the cable with time, just like with getting used to motion sickness.
but overall never buy shit from vive. they make such awful bullshit. awful designs that crash all the fucking time.